Bread dough doesn't keep its shape
I've just made some 50/50 loaves using a biga. The taste is quite good but I'd like the crumb to be more open.
The biggest issue is that while raising the dough tends to "spread" rather than rise. What did I do wrong?
Here is my recipe:
For the biga:
500g manitoba flour (extra strong)
300ml water
8g active dry yeast
After 24h I add:
500g wholemeal flour
300ml water
1tbsp vanilla paste
1tsp sugar
I've shaped the loaves straight away as I know wholemeal bread doesn't like long proofing. I've let the dough raise 1 hour at room temperature and 10 hours in the fridge. This morning I found the dough slightly raised and evenly spread in the pan (more like a focaccia than 3 loaves :-) ). I've reshaped a bit, just separating the three loaves.
In the oven the size hasn't changed much (180 C, with a bit of water to keep humidity right).
I'm trying to get soft, open crumb loaves, like this one http://www.thefreshloaf.com/files/u5218/proth5_baguette_crumb.JPG
Edit: by mistake, as often happens in the kitchen, I've found the right recipe:
For the biga:
500g manitoba flour (extra strong)
300ml water
8g active dry yeast
After 24h I add:
500g wholemeal flour
**600ml** water
1tbsp vanilla paste
1tsp honey
And that is the result
Best Answer
If your crumb is not open you likely either underproofed, your dough is too dry, or you have not opened the dough up by cutting across the top. There are many very good questions about crumb on this site already so I won't go more into that in detail, instead I'll move onto shaping.
Bread will spread out and not up unless it's restrained, it's natural for it to do so as it's the path of least resistance. If you want it to prove in a certain shape you need to use a tin or a basket in the shape you want. Bread can be baked in a tin, however if you use a basket you'll need to turn it out onto a sheet before baking.
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To sum it up there are many reasons why your sourdough feels loose and does not hold its shape, but the most common reason is due to an under developed gluten network which is caused from inadequate mixing. Keep mixing times close to the 5-7 minutes when using a spiral mixer and about 8-10 minutes if hand mixing.Why does my bread dough not hold its shape?
If dough hydration is too high, the dough will be too slack to hold its shape. Try adding a little more flour or a little less liquid to the dough.Why does my bread lose its shape?
When yeast is active in your dough it eats away at starches and sugars and releases gasses. These gasses are then trapped inside your dough by the gluten mesh that has been created. If your gluten mesh is not fully developed it will not be able to supposer those gasses and thus resulting in a flat or collapsed bread.Why does my bread dough keep collapsing?
Bread that Falls or Collapses Can Be Caused By:Too much liquid \u2013 Try decreasing water or milk by one to two tablespoons. Remember to look at your dough after a few minutes of kneading and see if it's a smooth, round ball. If the dough is too dry add liquid a teaspoon at a time until the dough balls up.How to Fix Dough That Won't Rise
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The short: The stretch and fold method is my favorite technique for building big bubbles and strong gluten structure to support a taller loaf of bread. This does require more time and doesn't really work with the stand mixer method.
The long: I've found that a loaf spreading rather than "springing" is a function of a number of things. It took me about 6 months of constant baking to finally be able to identify the factors and how they affect the final product:
- Loaf size. Some loaves are just too big and collapse under their own weight. I make loaves half the size of the recipe I started with because they spring much better.
- Improper loaf formation. If a loaf is not formed correctly to develop a taught skin around the outside, it will fail to constrain the dough during final proofing. I reference the Good Eats "No knead sourdough" episode for an demonstration of this.
- Insufficient gluten development. If you allow your dough to rest for 45 minutes at room temp, then pick it up. How many times will it stretch under its own weight, then be folded over itself. If the answer is more than once, then it is probably not developed enough too spring correctly. This is also a function of too much moisture in the dough.
- Excess moisture. Anything much over 70% hydration usually tends to fall for me unless the gluten is really well developed.
- Proofing vessel size. If the final proofing vessel is not small enough to give structure to the rising dough, it will just spread out. See "Bakers Couche" for how the French get their baguettes to stay round instead of flat.
- Scoring. You may notice that all great tall loafs of bread have been scored (sliced gently with a knife just prior to baking) to allow expansion of the bread as it cooks.
- Oven humidity or steam. Bread really needs humidity in the first phase of baking because it allows the skin constraining the bread to stretch upwards as the bread expands during cooking. I usually use a spray bottle to coat the oven and the loaf directly just before I pop the loaf in the oven.
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